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		<title>By: Weight Loss Wednesday: Week 2 (Plus a Recipe!) at Dethroner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weight Loss Wednesday: Week 2 (Plus a Recipe!) at Dethroner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 18:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] last thing I want to share before I go. The smoker I picked up a couple weeks ago that I mentioned last week is still performing astoundingly well, and I wanted to share a recipe I came up with for anybody [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] last thing I want to share before I go. The smoker I picked up a couple weeks ago that I mentioned last week is still performing astoundingly well, and I wanted to share a recipe I came up with for anybody [...]</p>
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		<title>By: senseigmg</title>
		<link>http://dethroner.com/2007/03/21/weight-loss-wednesday-week-1/comment-page-1/#comment-46741</link>
		<dc:creator>senseigmg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill:
My scale says BMR is around 1780.  I&#039;ve been trying to keep my intake of calories to around 1600.

Also, drinking lots of water helps keep you from eating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill:<br />
My scale says BMR is around 1780.  I&#8217;ve been trying to keep my intake of calories to around 1600.</p>
<p>Also, drinking lots of water helps keep you from eating.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://dethroner.com/2007/03/21/weight-loss-wednesday-week-1/comment-page-1/#comment-45942</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 00:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s important to note, that when you use a heart rate monitor or the like, that the calories burnt is gross calories.  You may have burnt 350 calories, but you&#039;d have burnt some just standing around with your thumb up your butt.  So really, you need to figure out what your basal metabolic rate is and subtract it to find out the actual net loss.

It&#039;s the net loss that is the key to success.  To many people see a stellar number, and then figure they can go out and have some ice cream because it&#039;s 300 calories and they burnt 600.  These people will be sorry.

The biggest bummer of all, is that once you are fitter, the amount of calories burnt in a given activity actually goes down because your body adapts to the stress  you&#039;ve placed on it.

boobs and stuff aside, the human body really does kick ass and it&#039;s amazing what you can push it to do if you are persistent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s important to note, that when you use a heart rate monitor or the like, that the calories burnt is gross calories.  You may have burnt 350 calories, but you&#8217;d have burnt some just standing around with your thumb up your butt.  So really, you need to figure out what your basal metabolic rate is and subtract it to find out the actual net loss.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the net loss that is the key to success.  To many people see a stellar number, and then figure they can go out and have some ice cream because it&#8217;s 300 calories and they burnt 600.  These people will be sorry.</p>
<p>The biggest bummer of all, is that once you are fitter, the amount of calories burnt in a given activity actually goes down because your body adapts to the stress  you&#8217;ve placed on it.</p>
<p>boobs and stuff aside, the human body really does kick ass and it&#8217;s amazing what you can push it to do if you are persistent.</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
		<link>http://dethroner.com/2007/03/21/weight-loss-wednesday-week-1/comment-page-1/#comment-45703</link>
		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan-
I don&#039;t work for them, I am in the financial industry.  I fasted for 5 days and kept crapping 3x/day the entire 5 days.  Without eating anything.  Really.  That meant that all those weird ropey things were never going to come out otherwise, because I had never seen anything like it before.  Or after.  And I am not even 30.

As for the presence (or lack thereof) of peer-review studies, the results of kits like this will vary greatly from person to person. This is all contigent upon body chemistry, past diet, current health, etc.  There will be no double-blind placebo  persona non gratis studies that produce extensive results.   There are plenty of proponents, albeit quite an oddball selection of flakes sprinkled with actual insight from some.  

Let me say that I didn&#039;t do the kit with the intention of losing weight, it was only a byproduct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan-<br />
I don&#8217;t work for them, I am in the financial industry.  I fasted for 5 days and kept crapping 3x/day the entire 5 days.  Without eating anything.  Really.  That meant that all those weird ropey things were never going to come out otherwise, because I had never seen anything like it before.  Or after.  And I am not even 30.</p>
<p>As for the presence (or lack thereof) of peer-review studies, the results of kits like this will vary greatly from person to person. This is all contigent upon body chemistry, past diet, current health, etc.  There will be no double-blind placebo  persona non gratis studies that produce extensive results.   There are plenty of proponents, albeit quite an oddball selection of flakes sprinkled with actual insight from some.  </p>
<p>Let me say that I didn&#8217;t do the kit with the intention of losing weight, it was only a byproduct.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://dethroner.com/2007/03/21/weight-loss-wednesday-week-1/comment-page-1/#comment-45675</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J said, &quot;I would highly suggest a colon cleanse from a site like blessedherbs.com (organic) or colonix.&quot;

I&#039;ve heard this from a few people, but I can&#039;t find a single peer-reviewed study that indicates colon cleansing is necessary or desirable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J said, &#8220;I would highly suggest a colon cleanse from a site like blessedherbs.com (organic) or colonix.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard this from a few people, but I can&#8217;t find a single peer-reviewed study that indicates colon cleansing is necessary or desirable.</p>
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		<title>By: senseigmg</title>
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		<dc:creator>senseigmg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just bought a heart rate monitor today (polar F6, $110-$10 @ sports authority).  After 25 min on the stair machine doing intervals, I had burned over 350 cal.  I highly recommend getting one just so you can see how much your hard work is paying off.  The machine said I had burned ~280 btw, not very accurate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just bought a heart rate monitor today (polar F6, $110-$10 @ sports authority).  After 25 min on the stair machine doing intervals, I had burned over 350 cal.  I highly recommend getting one just so you can see how much your hard work is paying off.  The machine said I had burned ~280 btw, not very accurate.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should definitely have a cheat/off day.  When you restrict calories, your body, after an amount of time, will be accustomed to the amount of calories you take in and your metabolism will sow to compensate.  By eating more on one day (though obviously not thousands more) your body is tricked into believing that it has ample supplies of food and it will sort of kick start your metabolism once a week.  The bonus, is that  you won&#039;t feel as though you&#039;re going insane.

I personally lost about 100lbs from July 2004-early/mid 2005 going from 250 to 155.  The 155 was at the peak of training for a marathon.  I actually way around 165 now, but it&#039;s because I&#039;ve been running for almost three years now, and I&#039;ve gained some muscle from the 65mpw I&#039;ve been averaging as I gear up for another marathon.

Keep it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should definitely have a cheat/off day.  When you restrict calories, your body, after an amount of time, will be accustomed to the amount of calories you take in and your metabolism will sow to compensate.  By eating more on one day (though obviously not thousands more) your body is tricked into believing that it has ample supplies of food and it will sort of kick start your metabolism once a week.  The bonus, is that  you won&#8217;t feel as though you&#8217;re going insane.</p>
<p>I personally lost about 100lbs from July 2004-early/mid 2005 going from 250 to 155.  The 155 was at the peak of training for a marathon.  I actually way around 165 now, but it&#8217;s because I&#8217;ve been running for almost three years now, and I&#8217;ve gained some muscle from the 65mpw I&#8217;ve been averaging as I gear up for another marathon.</p>
<p>Keep it up.</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
		<link>http://dethroner.com/2007/03/21/weight-loss-wednesday-week-1/comment-page-1/#comment-45436</link>
		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would highly suggest a colon cleanse from a site like blessedherbs.com (organic) or colonix.  You would be shocked at the amount of sludge that packs your large intestine, essentially blocking nutrients from passing thru.  not only does this sludge actually make you crave more food (to get the nutrients that your body is missing), it is also the main contributor in the development of colon cancer.

good luck!

I am wrapping up the whole body cleanse from blessed herbs and have lost 17 lbs in a month.  

I even shit parasites.  Worms.  Gross.  It could happen to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would highly suggest a colon cleanse from a site like blessedherbs.com (organic) or colonix.  You would be shocked at the amount of sludge that packs your large intestine, essentially blocking nutrients from passing thru.  not only does this sludge actually make you crave more food (to get the nutrients that your body is missing), it is also the main contributor in the development of colon cancer.</p>
<p>good luck!</p>
<p>I am wrapping up the whole body cleanse from blessed herbs and have lost 17 lbs in a month.  </p>
<p>I even shit parasites.  Worms.  Gross.  It could happen to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://dethroner.com/2007/03/21/weight-loss-wednesday-week-1/comment-page-1/#comment-45254</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is your body and your self-esteem so it&#039;s your choice.

Huge respect for putting your pics up.  I&#039;ll be watching closely as I have been struggling for a while and have now decided to get with the program properly.

Best of luck future thinner bloke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is your body and your self-esteem so it&#8217;s your choice.</p>
<p>Huge respect for putting your pics up.  I&#8217;ll be watching closely as I have been struggling for a while and have now decided to get with the program properly.</p>
<p>Best of luck future thinner bloke.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
		<link>http://dethroner.com/2007/03/21/weight-loss-wednesday-week-1/comment-page-1/#comment-44524</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 23:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely second (or third) the idea of having at least an &quot;off&quot; meal a week.

And yes, I meant &quot;at first.&quot; It may be the easy weight, but it still is weight and it feels good!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely second (or third) the idea of having at least an &#8220;off&#8221; meal a week.</p>
<p>And yes, I meant &#8220;at first.&#8221; It may be the easy weight, but it still is weight and it feels good!</p>
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		<title>By: susie</title>
		<link>http://dethroner.com/2007/03/21/weight-loss-wednesday-week-1/comment-page-1/#comment-44493</link>
		<dc:creator>susie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 22:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>11 pounds! That&#039;s awesome, man! Congrats! Your post last week motivated me to get up off my ass and get rid of the 10 pounds of vanity weight I keep threatening to drop. 2 gone so far! Many hugs for Ryan next time we&#039;re back in KC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>11 pounds! That&#8217;s awesome, man! Congrats! Your post last week motivated me to get up off my ass and get rid of the 10 pounds of vanity weight I keep threatening to drop. 2 gone so far! Many hugs for Ryan next time we&#8217;re back in KC.</p>
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		<title>By: Crashin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crashin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 21:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy hell!!! 11lbs is tremendous.  Good Job.  I hope you&#039;ll keep us posted after you finished this experiment and maybe check in 6 months to a year afterwards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy hell!!! 11lbs is tremendous.  Good Job.  I hope you&#8217;ll keep us posted after you finished this experiment and maybe check in 6 months to a year afterwards.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://dethroner.com/2007/03/21/weight-loss-wednesday-week-1/comment-page-1/#comment-44391</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 21:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CanesFan said, &quot;If you fall off for a day or two (or more) don’t worry, just get back onto it and stick with it. It will be worth it in the end.&quot;

Good advice. I&#039;ve actually considered &quot;falling off&quot; on purpose for a meal or a day, just to break some of the monotony. I think the key may be in *planning* to slip a day, instead of giving into a spontaneous urge I&#039;d feel guilty about later; but who knows, I haven&#039;t actually done it yet. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CanesFan said, &#8220;If you fall off for a day or two (or more) don’t worry, just get back onto it and stick with it. It will be worth it in the end.&#8221;</p>
<p>Good advice. I&#8217;ve actually considered &#8220;falling off&#8221; on purpose for a meal or a day, just to break some of the monotony. I think the key may be in *planning* to slip a day, instead of giving into a spontaneous urge I&#8217;d feel guilty about later; but who knows, I haven&#8217;t actually done it yet. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Smoker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Smoker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 21:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, mean, that is alot for one week! Gratz!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, mean, that is alot for one week! Gratz!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: CanesFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>CanesFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good move starting this regardless of the method and what other people think.  As a fellow fattie who started on this process 8 weeks and 23 pounds ago I commend you and would like to offer this small bit of advice:  If you fall off for a day or two (or more) don&#039;t worry, just get back onto it and stick with it.  It will be worth it in the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good move starting this regardless of the method and what other people think.  As a fellow fattie who started on this process 8 weeks and 23 pounds ago I commend you and would like to offer this small bit of advice:  If you fall off for a day or two (or more) don&#8217;t worry, just get back onto it and stick with it.  It will be worth it in the end.</p>
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		<title>By: SkinnyFatSkinny</title>
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		<dc:creator>SkinnyFatSkinny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good job, Ryan. I recently dieted myself---I went from 221 to 183 in less than 12 weeks. It started as a pre-New Years resolution (that way I couldn&#039;t just shrug it off as another resolution I couldn&#039;t keep). I basically do 30 minutes of cardio 6 days per week, weights 4 days a week, and abs every day. I do a low-carb, high protein diet---with fat content somewhere b/w South Beach and Atkins. When I&#039;m not in the mood to cook, I have a couple of slices of cheese and a low-carb Slimfast (not so tasty, but not that bad and it&#039;s balanced nutrition). Also, I always let myself have one cheat meal---whatever I want (usually something fried) per week, which I think is important. 

I feel so much better and all of my clothes fit again! My long-term plan, is that once I get down to 179.5 (my goal/where I remember being for a while before my office induced sloth), I&#039;m going to continue the exercise program and switch to portion control. 

Hang in there. It&#039;s not an easy thing, but you&#039;ll be glad you stuck it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good job, Ryan. I recently dieted myself&#8212;I went from 221 to 183 in less than 12 weeks. It started as a pre-New Years resolution (that way I couldn&#8217;t just shrug it off as another resolution I couldn&#8217;t keep). I basically do 30 minutes of cardio 6 days per week, weights 4 days a week, and abs every day. I do a low-carb, high protein diet&#8212;with fat content somewhere b/w South Beach and Atkins. When I&#8217;m not in the mood to cook, I have a couple of slices of cheese and a low-carb Slimfast (not so tasty, but not that bad and it&#8217;s balanced nutrition). Also, I always let myself have one cheat meal&#8212;whatever I want (usually something fried) per week, which I think is important. </p>
<p>I feel so much better and all of my clothes fit again! My long-term plan, is that once I get down to 179.5 (my goal/where I remember being for a while before my office induced sloth), I&#8217;m going to continue the exercise program and switch to portion control. </p>
<p>Hang in there. It&#8217;s not an easy thing, but you&#8217;ll be glad you stuck it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what you&#039;re doing is awesome and brave.  I could never put pictures of my belly on the internet, even if i was in great shape.  Does the food taste any good?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what you&#8217;re doing is awesome and brave.  I could never put pictures of my belly on the internet, even if i was in great shape.  Does the food taste any good?</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>joflow said, &quot;I don’t remember you saying in your first post or not, but do you drink?&quot;

I enjoy the occasional fine beer or wine, I actually brew beer at home, but for the purposes of this weight loss program I am not drinking at all.

tahddeus said, &quot;how’s the food/process/etc?&quot;

The food is pretty good for the most part. I haven&#039;t found anything to be inedible, although there are a couple things I don&#039;t really like. The shakes and puddings taste pretty much all the same to me, but they&#039;re not awful. Just kind of bland. The process so far has been easy enough, seems like it shouldn&#039;t be a big deal to stick this out for a few months.

senseigmg said, &quot;But I think you’re supposed to lose 2lb a week maximum, but I can’t remember why. Some sort of health thing.&quot;

Yeah, two pounds per week is a safe average for you standard diet and exercise. With this program you can average up to five pounds per week (relatively) safely. I don&#039;t anticipate continued weight loss of this magnitude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>joflow said, &#8220;I don’t remember you saying in your first post or not, but do you drink?&#8221;</p>
<p>I enjoy the occasional fine beer or wine, I actually brew beer at home, but for the purposes of this weight loss program I am not drinking at all.</p>
<p>tahddeus said, &#8220;how’s the food/process/etc?&#8221;</p>
<p>The food is pretty good for the most part. I haven&#8217;t found anything to be inedible, although there are a couple things I don&#8217;t really like. The shakes and puddings taste pretty much all the same to me, but they&#8217;re not awful. Just kind of bland. The process so far has been easy enough, seems like it shouldn&#8217;t be a big deal to stick this out for a few months.</p>
<p>senseigmg said, &#8220;But I think you’re supposed to lose 2lb a week maximum, but I can’t remember why. Some sort of health thing.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, two pounds per week is a safe average for you standard diet and exercise. With this program you can average up to five pounds per week (relatively) safely. I don&#8217;t anticipate continued weight loss of this magnitude.</p>
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