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	<title>Comments on: Review: Premier Supermatic II Cigarette Injector</title>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://dethroner.com/2007/03/13/review-premier-supermatic-ii-cigarette-injector/#comment-98734</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try smokersoutletonline.com for good prices on golden harvest tobacco great taste. $11.95 a pound very quick standard shipping.</description>
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		<title>By: kthulhu</title>
		<link>http://dethroner.com/2007/03/13/review-premier-supermatic-ii-cigarette-injector/#comment-98636</link>
		<dc:creator>kthulhu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had the same supermatic II for almost 6 years.  I found it to be almost indestructable.  It was finally laid to rest after a 3 week trip in europe where it was beat to hell on a daily basis in my bag which also took a good deal of abuse.  When I got used to it I could roll a whole pack (20 cigs) in less than ten minutes.  I can never keep that rate up with a hand packer and i've never been good at actually rolling them by hand.  I even have to use a little roller to make a J.  I did not have a problem with over/under packing because you are not supposed to tamp it down (maybe just a teeny bit with your fingers).  the supermatic usually tends to compensate for putting too much in the hopper.  Plus I highly recommned slightly moist tobacco (the dry stuff crumbles and will easily jam the thing).  As mentioned in the original post, the first part of the crank motion actually packs down the hopper lengthwise and the trimmer cuts off the extra that is squeezed out (it doesn't trim the tip off like some other poster thought).  After my cig comes of the supermatic, i tamp it on the table about 3 times (I can tamp 2 cigs in each hand).  There is a about 1/4 inch of empty space at the lighting end that I fold over, so the tobacco stays in the cig while they are in my case.

I also recommend the Stokkebye's tobacco.  It's damp when you first open the can.  I take a little out and let it dry a bit over night, but try to keep some moisture in it before I pack it.  Any other tobacco can be moistened by adding a teaspoon of water (sometimes a tablespoon or 5 in the case of american spirit) to your can of tobacco.  Don't get it too wet or it will mold and stick to your can.

Here is my cost add up:

I get almost 3 cartons from a can of stokkebye's

1 can of stokkebye danish export (I do like the london export too) @ $17.50
3 cartons of zig zag tubes (rizla tubes are nice too) @ $1.99 each

Comes to $.80 a pack
if i get 2.5 cartons from a can that's $.90 a pack
Take that you taxing government bastards!

The smokes taste way better than anything i've bought in the store (aside from Nat Sherman's).  Plus the stokkebye is pure leaf (I see 1 birdseye in about every 3-4 cans) and has absolutely no additives or fillers.  I cannot smoke a camel or marlboro any more, they taste like some kind of buring plastic.  I like the zig zag and rizlas because they have very little flavor unlike the buglers, gamblers and other brands.  Most of those taste like i rolled my cig with a paper grocery bag.  As to tobacco, I honestly recommend staying away from the american spirit because it is so dry when you get it and trying to rehydrate it is a lot of work.  

I guarentee that anyone the tries the varieties of stokkebye will find one that they like and will never smoke another tobacco again with any kind of pleasure.  I would start with the danish or london exports becuase the other kinds get darker and harsher from there.  Just like beer though, some like light some like dark.  I also recommend looking online for good stokkebye deals, or asking your tobacconist to order some for you.

I have to say too that there is an extreme difference between cigars (filtered or not) and cigarettes Vincent.  If I smoke a cigar i get tary lingering aftertaste, and I still want a cigarette.  Its a bit a shock to most smokers to switch from cigarettes to cigars.  I put cigars on the same level as cloves, nice once in a while, but if i smoke too many, it kills my tastebuds for about a week.  Plus you are not supposed to inhale a good cigar, so putting a filter on one is a little silly.  It's about quality really, I pack to save money, but I also get a much better smoke that anything else in the world of cigarettes.  Filtered cigars are not exactly the the creme of the crop of cigars and you still pay way more than I.

I agree, with miller, who are you anti smokers to tell me how to live or die.  As soon as everyone else stops running automobile and using electricity I will give up smoking.  I would say my car and coal fired generated put off way more contaminants and pollutants than my 10 cigaretts a day.

Sorry for my long rant, but i really love my tobacco and i love my supermatic.  It took me years to figure most of this stuff out, so hopefully it helps someone else out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the same supermatic II for almost 6 years.  I found it to be almost indestructable.  It was finally laid to rest after a 3 week trip in europe where it was beat to hell on a daily basis in my bag which also took a good deal of abuse.  When I got used to it I could roll a whole pack (20 cigs) in less than ten minutes.  I can never keep that rate up with a hand packer and i&#8217;ve never been good at actually rolling them by hand.  I even have to use a little roller to make a J.  I did not have a problem with over/under packing because you are not supposed to tamp it down (maybe just a teeny bit with your fingers).  the supermatic usually tends to compensate for putting too much in the hopper.  Plus I highly recommned slightly moist tobacco (the dry stuff crumbles and will easily jam the thing).  As mentioned in the original post, the first part of the crank motion actually packs down the hopper lengthwise and the trimmer cuts off the extra that is squeezed out (it doesn&#8217;t trim the tip off like some other poster thought).  After my cig comes of the supermatic, i tamp it on the table about 3 times (I can tamp 2 cigs in each hand).  There is a about 1/4 inch of empty space at the lighting end that I fold over, so the tobacco stays in the cig while they are in my case.</p>
<p>I also recommend the Stokkebye&#8217;s tobacco.  It&#8217;s damp when you first open the can.  I take a little out and let it dry a bit over night, but try to keep some moisture in it before I pack it.  Any other tobacco can be moistened by adding a teaspoon of water (sometimes a tablespoon or 5 in the case of american spirit) to your can of tobacco.  Don&#8217;t get it too wet or it will mold and stick to your can.</p>
<p>Here is my cost add up:</p>
<p>I get almost 3 cartons from a can of stokkebye&#8217;s</p>
<p>1 can of stokkebye danish export (I do like the london export too) @ $17.50<br />
3 cartons of zig zag tubes (rizla tubes are nice too) @ $1.99 each</p>
<p>Comes to $.80 a pack<br />
if i get 2.5 cartons from a can that&#8217;s $.90 a pack<br />
Take that you taxing government bastards!</p>
<p>The smokes taste way better than anything i&#8217;ve bought in the store (aside from Nat Sherman&#8217;s).  Plus the stokkebye is pure leaf (I see 1 birdseye in about every 3-4 cans) and has absolutely no additives or fillers.  I cannot smoke a camel or marlboro any more, they taste like some kind of buring plastic.  I like the zig zag and rizlas because they have very little flavor unlike the buglers, gamblers and other brands.  Most of those taste like i rolled my cig with a paper grocery bag.  As to tobacco, I honestly recommend staying away from the american spirit because it is so dry when you get it and trying to rehydrate it is a lot of work.  </p>
<p>I guarentee that anyone the tries the varieties of stokkebye will find one that they like and will never smoke another tobacco again with any kind of pleasure.  I would start with the danish or london exports becuase the other kinds get darker and harsher from there.  Just like beer though, some like light some like dark.  I also recommend looking online for good stokkebye deals, or asking your tobacconist to order some for you.</p>
<p>I have to say too that there is an extreme difference between cigars (filtered or not) and cigarettes Vincent.  If I smoke a cigar i get tary lingering aftertaste, and I still want a cigarette.  Its a bit a shock to most smokers to switch from cigarettes to cigars.  I put cigars on the same level as cloves, nice once in a while, but if i smoke too many, it kills my tastebuds for about a week.  Plus you are not supposed to inhale a good cigar, so putting a filter on one is a little silly.  It&#8217;s about quality really, I pack to save money, but I also get a much better smoke that anything else in the world of cigarettes.  Filtered cigars are not exactly the the creme of the crop of cigars and you still pay way more than I.</p>
<p>I agree, with miller, who are you anti smokers to tell me how to live or die.  As soon as everyone else stops running automobile and using electricity I will give up smoking.  I would say my car and coal fired generated put off way more contaminants and pollutants than my 10 cigaretts a day.</p>
<p>Sorry for my long rant, but i really love my tobacco and i love my supermatic.  It took me years to figure most of this stuff out, so hopefully it helps someone else out.</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent Fumar</title>
		<link>http://dethroner.com/2007/03/13/review-premier-supermatic-ii-cigarette-injector/#comment-97271</link>
		<dc:creator>Vincent Fumar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 04:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Muriel Sweets Sweet 'n Mild filtered cigars. 100mmL X 7mmDia.

20 to the pack.

Buy one pack, get one free (that's the only way they're sold.)

US$1.58 for the twin pack, which includes the 6% sales tax here in Lancaster PA. Seventy-nine-cents-a-pack!

Haven't smoked anything but in about 5 years.

Alpaca Marble Red Boxes  are about US$4.35

Ridiculous!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Muriel Sweets Sweet &#8216;n Mild filtered cigars. 100mmL X 7mmDia.</p>
<p>20 to the pack.</p>
<p>Buy one pack, get one free (that&#8217;s the only way they&#8217;re sold.)</p>
<p>US$1.58 for the twin pack, which includes the 6% sales tax here in Lancaster PA. Seventy-nine-cents-a-pack!</p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t smoked anything but in about 5 years.</p>
<p>Alpaca Marble Red Boxes  are about US$4.35</p>
<p>Ridiculous!</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://dethroner.com/2007/03/13/review-premier-supermatic-ii-cigarette-injector/#comment-91654</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 04:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just think you're all lucky.  We pay $40+ for American Standard here in NZ (and thats when Sante FE will supply it). Gotta keep teh politicians happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just think you&#8217;re all lucky.  We pay $40+ for American Standard here in NZ (and thats when Sante FE will supply it). Gotta keep teh politicians happy.</p>
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		<title>By: miller</title>
		<link>http://dethroner.com/2007/03/13/review-premier-supermatic-ii-cigarette-injector/#comment-89833</link>
		<dc:creator>miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with a free country, is some people will make bad choices. I do not think it's anyones business, how I live (or die). And no, I am not costing any of you money, I promise I pay more than my share of taxes and insurance premiums. I support all kinds of drunks and druggies too bty.
 If there was a hermetically sealed building in the middle of the desert, where only smokers went, there would still be plenty of people wanting it shut down. Not because of second hand smoke, just because, my personal choices, offend them. 
 What do you people want me to die from ? OLD AGE? 
 There is a way to get people to pay only for exactly what they cost society, it is called no insurance for anyone. Sounds like a crappy idea. I do pay a higher premium from rock climbing accidents, drug overdoses, motorcycle wrecks etc. ad infinitum, and so do you, but the idea of telling all these people how to live is disgustingly anti American.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with a free country, is some people will make bad choices. I do not think it&#8217;s anyones business, how I live (or die). And no, I am not costing any of you money, I promise I pay more than my share of taxes and insurance premiums. I support all kinds of drunks and druggies too bty.<br />
 If there was a hermetically sealed building in the middle of the desert, where only smokers went, there would still be plenty of people wanting it shut down. Not because of second hand smoke, just because, my personal choices, offend them.<br />
 What do you people want me to die from ? OLD AGE?<br />
 There is a way to get people to pay only for exactly what they cost society, it is called no insurance for anyone. Sounds like a crappy idea. I do pay a higher premium from rock climbing accidents, drug overdoses, motorcycle wrecks etc. ad infinitum, and so do you, but the idea of telling all these people how to live is disgustingly anti American.</p>
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		<title>By: Po'Boy</title>
		<link>http://dethroner.com/2007/03/13/review-premier-supermatic-ii-cigarette-injector/#comment-86868</link>
		<dc:creator>Po'Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 05:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, he said Libertarian; that's not so bad.

I thought he said Librarian fetish; that'll kill you so fast as hell....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, he said Libertarian; that&#8217;s not so bad.</p>
<p>I thought he said Librarian fetish; that&#8217;ll kill you so fast as hell&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
		<link>http://dethroner.com/2007/03/13/review-premier-supermatic-ii-cigarette-injector/#comment-84639</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 14:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know 8 bucks seems a lot but its about £5.80 for a 20 deck in england and in pubs around about £6.00 for 16 ciggarettes !!!!! thats about $12 !!!!! ridiculous</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know 8 bucks seems a lot but its about £5.80 for a 20 deck in england and in pubs around about £6.00 for 16 ciggarettes !!!!! thats about $12 !!!!! ridiculous</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
		<link>http://dethroner.com/2007/03/13/review-premier-supermatic-ii-cigarette-injector/#comment-38149</link>
		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>joel, i've always been interested in a rolling device because of the ease and speed.. but rolled my own spirits instead. if if takes a minute per using the machine, that seems to be without advantage and the pride of doing it oneself. i'm jealous of the new gadget nevertheless</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>joel, i&#8217;ve always been interested in a rolling device because of the ease and speed.. but rolled my own spirits instead. if if takes a minute per using the machine, that seems to be without advantage and the pride of doing it oneself. i&#8217;m jealous of the new gadget nevertheless</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://dethroner.com/2007/03/13/review-premier-supermatic-ii-cigarette-injector/#comment-37315</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Busy Body said, "Libertarian Fetish? Oh so you enjoy futile unrealistic and childish political viewpoints!"

I advise familiarizing yourself with libertarianism before making comments like this. You sound like an ignorant boob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Busy Body said, &#8220;Libertarian Fetish? Oh so you enjoy futile unrealistic and childish political viewpoints!&#8221;</p>
<p>I advise familiarizing yourself with libertarianism before making comments like this. You sound like an ignorant boob.</p>
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		<title>By: nos•mo•king</title>
		<link>http://dethroner.com/2007/03/13/review-premier-supermatic-ii-cigarette-injector/#comment-37203</link>
		<dc:creator>nos•mo•king</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Topic is smoking so "pipe down" is a bad pun.

Guys like bad puns.

You basically said "Don't preach", sounds like "pipe down" to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Topic is smoking so &#8220;pipe down&#8221; is a bad pun.</p>
<p>Guys like bad puns.</p>
<p>You basically said &#8220;Don&#8217;t preach&#8221;, sounds like &#8220;pipe down&#8221; to me.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://dethroner.com/2007/03/13/review-premier-supermatic-ii-cigarette-injector/#comment-37200</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nos*mo*king, please go troll elsewhere.

And good job getting shut out by a female on a for-males site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nos*mo*king, please go troll elsewhere.</p>
<p>And good job getting shut out by a female on a for-males site.</p>
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		<title>By: bridgitte</title>
		<link>http://dethroner.com/2007/03/13/review-premier-supermatic-ii-cigarette-injector/#comment-37169</link>
		<dc:creator>bridgitte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently, my spelling also sucks, but...</description>
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		<title>By: bridgitte</title>
		<link>http://dethroner.com/2007/03/13/review-premier-supermatic-ii-cigarette-injector/#comment-37164</link>
		<dc:creator>bridgitte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. You're reading comprehension sucks. I didn't tell anybody to pipe down, I merely suggested that you look into what else is a drain on the health care system before you bash people for smoking. 

And I'm really, really sorry for being a girl. Thanks for putting me in my place :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. You&#8217;re reading comprehension sucks. I didn&#8217;t tell anybody to pipe down, I merely suggested that you look into what else is a drain on the health care system before you bash people for smoking. </p>
<p>And I&#8217;m really, really sorry for being a girl. Thanks for putting me in my place :)</p>
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		<title>By: nos•mo•king</title>
		<link>http://dethroner.com/2007/03/13/review-premier-supermatic-ii-cigarette-injector/#comment-37151</link>
		<dc:creator>nos•mo•king</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O.K. we can include the rabbit anti-smoker in Dumb Bunny Week too.

For those who want to join him here's some helpful advice from the Dethroner tomb:

&lt;a href="http://dethroner.com/2006/11/06/smoking-cessation-tips-from-a-quitter/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Smoking Cessation: Tips From a Quitter&lt;/a&gt;


And Bridgitte, as this is a web site for the "imperfect man", welcome, but don't tell the guys to pipe down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O.K. we can include the rabbit anti-smoker in Dumb Bunny Week too.</p>
<p>For those who want to join him here&#8217;s some helpful advice from the Dethroner tomb:</p>
<p><a href="http://dethroner.com/2006/11/06/smoking-cessation-tips-from-a-quitter/" rel="nofollow">Smoking Cessation: Tips From a Quitter</a></p>
<p>And Bridgitte, as this is a web site for the &#8220;imperfect man&#8221;, welcome, but don&#8217;t tell the guys to pipe down.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam B</title>
		<link>http://dethroner.com/2007/03/13/review-premier-supermatic-ii-cigarette-injector/#comment-37122</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>only thing more annoying than smoking?  a rabid anti-smoker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>only thing more annoying than smoking?  a rabid anti-smoker.</p>
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		<title>By: ryan</title>
		<link>http://dethroner.com/2007/03/13/review-premier-supermatic-ii-cigarette-injector/#comment-37094</link>
		<dc:creator>ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about a pack of Chewlies gum?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a pack of Chewlies gum?</p>
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		<title>By: bridgitte</title>
		<link>http://dethroner.com/2007/03/13/review-premier-supermatic-ii-cigarette-injector/#comment-37028</link>
		<dc:creator>bridgitte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The standard American diet causes strokes, heart attacks and digestive tract and other cancers...pretty much the same diseases as smoking. You might want to look into that before you start preaching about preventable burdens on the health care system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The standard American diet causes strokes, heart attacks and digestive tract and other cancers&#8230;pretty much the same diseases as smoking. You might want to look into that before you start preaching about preventable burdens on the health care system.</p>
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		<title>By: luke in OZ</title>
		<link>http://dethroner.com/2007/03/13/review-premier-supermatic-ii-cigarette-injector/#comment-36982</link>
		<dc:creator>luke in OZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are going to roll you own you may as well grow your own..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are going to roll you own you may as well grow your own..</p>
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